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Recoloring Knuckles issues

Postby Mavrickindigo » Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:22 am

I just got the Sonic Super Special Magazine #3, and they are going to be recoloring the issues, much like other collections they've done. A thing they pointed out is that they are going to recolor echidnas so that there are less knuckles clones running around. Now they will be rainbow Knuckles clones
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Re: Recoloring Knuckles issues

Postby PaulAgnew » Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:57 pm

Mavrickindigo wrote:I just got the Sonic Super Special Magazine #3, and they are going to be recoloring the issues, much like other collections they've done. A thing they pointed out is that they are going to recolor echidnas so that there are less knuckles clones running around. Now they will be rainbow Knuckles clones


Now that's cheating.
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Re: Recoloring Knuckles issues

Postby Mavrickindigo » Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:35 pm

PaulAgnew wrote:
Mavrickindigo wrote:I just got the Sonic Super Special Magazine #3, and they are going to be recoloring the issues, much like other collections they've done. A thing they pointed out is that they are going to recolor echidnas so that there are less knuckles clones running around. Now they will be rainbow Knuckles clones


Now that's cheating.

they recolored stuff before. I suppose it would make crowd shouts less laughable. A good percentage of the Knuckles series is featured in "A Moment of Archie Sonic" after all
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Re: Recoloring Knuckles issues

Postby BobR » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:47 am

Mavrickindigo wrote:I just got the Sonic Super Special Magazine #3, and they are going to be recoloring the issues, much like other collections they've done. A thing they pointed out is that they are going to recolor echidnas so that there are less knuckles clones running around. Now they will be rainbow Knuckles clones

More than likely the reason they're recoloring is they've lost the original color files (which were done on computer after scanning the original line inks.) And now they don't have to come to any agreements to pay the original colorist any royalties for using his or her unlicensed work...which, come to think of it, is probably the more likely reason.
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Re: Recoloring Knuckles issues

Postby Mavrickindigo » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:05 am

BobR wrote:
Mavrickindigo wrote:I just got the Sonic Super Special Magazine #3, and they are going to be recoloring the issues, much like other collections they've done. A thing they pointed out is that they are going to recolor echidnas so that there are less knuckles clones running around. Now they will be rainbow Knuckles clones

More than likely the reason they're recoloring is they've lost the original color files (which were done on computer after scanning the original line inks.) And now they don't have to come to any agreements to pay the original colorist any royalties for using his or her unlicensed work...which, come to think of it, is probably the more likely reason.

I don't see how that's the reason they'd want to make the characters a different color. I'm not saying what you're saying is wrong, it's just not a more likely reason for what I'm saying.

I mean if you're right, it could be the reason they decided to recolor things to begin with. "Oh we lost the files? Guess we'll have to recolor everything! Hey might as well add some diversity while we're at it!"

But that's just what I'm getting from the conversation nhere
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Re: Recoloring Knuckles issues

Postby Antarctic Deity » Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:37 am

So they paid an artist to go over and make things less embarrassing (despite that they'd already been recoloring other Archives issues without changing anything), simply because they didn't want to pay another artist. Brilliant. Just like how they redid SSS15 because they didn't want to pay Many Hands royalties, right?
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Re: Recoloring Knuckles issues

Postby BobR » Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:00 pm

Antarctic Deity wrote: Just like how they redid SSS15 because they didn't want to pay Many Hands royalties, right?

Actually, Many Hands is one the few people they wouldn't have to pay royalties to. There were other reasons there.
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Re: Recoloring Knuckles issues

Postby Darkfox » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:34 pm

BobR wrote:There were other reasons there.
Like the fact that no one knows who Many Hands is. And or the fact that Many Hands might have been a group of people who don't want to be credited for Naugus Games, and I can't say that I blame them.
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Re: Recoloring Knuckles issues

Postby Mavrickindigo » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:16 pm

Darkfox wrote:
BobR wrote:There were other reasons there.
Like the fact that no one knows who Many Hands is. And or the fact that Many Hands might have been a group of people who don't want to be credited for Naugus Games, and I can't say that I blame them.

That must have been one Hell of a crappy script that Penders phoned in too. You could tell he never read the Naugus saga. Not only did Ian cut out the snowy wallpaper, he rewrote the entire thing because of how grossly contradictory the whole thing was to canon.
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Re: Recoloring Knuckles issues

Postby Tylinos » Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:40 pm

To give credit to Ken's original version, there is one thing I like in it over the remake: In the original, Naugus uses his powers of mental manipulation to trick Sonic into wishing for the rings to free Naugus. In Ian's remake, Naugus is...just kind of there by coincidence.

Back on topic, though, it would be nice to see Echidna group shots where everyone isn't nearly the same color, for once. Having lost the original color files is a likely reason for it, though, like Bob said, since they've been recoloring the reprints for a while to begin with.
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Re: Recoloring Knuckles issues

Postby Mavrickindigo » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:42 pm

Tylinos wrote:To give credit to Ken's original version, there is one thing I like in it over the remake: In the original, Naugus uses his powers of mental manipulation to trick Sonic into wishing for the rings to free Naugus. In Ian's remake, Naugus is...just kind of there by coincidence.


Except it makes absolutely no sense how Naugus was able to contact Sonic through the Zone of Silence. It's a bit more plausible that he found a way out himself.
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Re: Recoloring Knuckles issues

Postby Tylinos » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:17 pm

Mavrickindigo wrote:It's a bit more plausible that he found a way out himself.

At the exact same time Sonic got there?
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Re: Recoloring Knuckles issues

Postby Mavrickindigo » Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:06 am

Tylinos wrote:
Mavrickindigo wrote:It's a bit more plausible that he found a way out himself.

At the exact same time Sonic got there?

So the story itself is pretty week, but Ian's version is 100x better than Ken's. You can't tell me that 8 pages of black and white with random text bubbles plus horrible Many Hands Art is better than the FCBD issue? Besides it was free, it doesn't have to be a masterpiece.

Naugus Games, on the other hand, was not free and should have been better

but it wasn't..

But maybe Naugus tricking Sonic into wishing for him would have been good, if Ken hadn't shown his inability to understand the Naugus saga with all the other little things he had in there (been awhile since I saw it. Didn't he call the Zone of Silence "the forbidden zone" or something like that? And also got how Nate Morgan banished him all wrong?
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Re: Recoloring Knuckles issues

Postby Darkfox » Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:57 pm

Mavrickindigo wrote:Didn't he call the Zone of Silence "the forbidden zone" or something like that? And also got how Nate Morgan banished him all wrong?
What makes it worse was that there were already about three different places that were called the forbidden zone.
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Re: Recoloring Knuckles issues

Postby Tylinos » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:10 pm

Mavrickindigo wrote:So the story itself is pretty week, but Ian's version is 100x better than Ken's. You can't tell me that 8 pages of black and white with random text bubbles plus horrible Many Hands Art is better than the FCBD issue? Besides it was free, it doesn't have to be a masterpiece.

I know, and I definitely think the remake was better. I'm just saying that particular change bugged me.
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Re: Recoloring Knuckles issues

Postby Antarctic Deity » Tue May 01, 2012 11:33 am

Better to have a coincidence than a plot hole, I guess. Much the same, if you're going to have thousands of one character, might as well change the colors up a bit.
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